![]() There is the panel of feminist thinkers the interview with a lady boss the conversation between friends. In the growing ecosystem of podcasts for women, a few typical forms have crystallized. And so the show still lets some of Ocean’s mystery be. But what’s especially revelatory about the Frank Ocean episodes - but, really, Cuchna’s entire project - is the way all this sleuthing isn’t about finding a final answer or a means to an end. Sometimes the combination of insights adds up to one possibility. Maybe the allusions to color on a song like “Pink Matter” mean this. The show’s time with Ocean’s debut, “Channel Orange,” makes leaps of interpretive wonder, followed by long stretches of corroborating music clips. ![]() It’s that the show, which is now being produced by Spotify, thrives as an achievement of contemplative audio. It isn’t just Cuchna’s assumed assertion that Ocean’s work is as bountifully ornate as Lamar’s or West’s. He’s a scuba artist, deep-diving into Ocean’s art and emerging with little bits of treasure, which he delivers in a congested monotone.
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